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		<description>Hi Suzanne,

My apologies for the delay in replying; your message came through on the day before my wedding and Im afraid I&#039;ve just managed to get to it!

Firstly, how did you find out that building regulation approval was definitely required?  Did you contact the Council and if so, did you tell them the property address, as this would constitute &quot;notice&quot; and prevent you obtaining an insurance policy?

Assuming indemnity insurance is a possibility, I cannot see why this should make your property impossible or even more difficult to sell.  Make enquiries with an indemnity insurance company - I would suggest Legal &amp; Contingency.

Kind regards,

Gemma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Suzanne,</p>
<p>My apologies for the delay in replying; your message came through on the day before my wedding and Im afraid I&#8217;ve just managed to get to it!</p>
<p>Firstly, how did you find out that building regulation approval was definitely required?  Did you contact the Council and if so, did you tell them the property address, as this would constitute &#8220;notice&#8221; and prevent you obtaining an insurance policy?</p>
<p>Assuming indemnity insurance is a possibility, I cannot see why this should make your property impossible or even more difficult to sell.  Make enquiries with an indemnity insurance company &#8211; I would suggest Legal &#038; Contingency.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Gemma</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jen,

Firstly, keep pursuing your previous solicitors!  They may have on file an indemnity insurance policy for your flat and havent told you, you never know.  If they didnt sort this out when you bought the property, then this could amount to negligence and a claim could be pursued through the Legal Complaints Service.  In my experience, the threat of a formal complaint is usually sufficient to get a response from even the busiest solicitor and you may wish to test this out.

Please note that in order to be in a position to refer the case to the LCS, you would first have to proceed through the solicitor&#039;s firm&#039;s complaints service and I suggest that you telephone them and ask for a copy of their complaints procedure.  Follow that procedure, the starting point usually being a formal letter of complaint outlining the issues, including the continued lack of response to your calls.

Dealing with the main issue, I honestly cannot answer whether or not the other leaseholders&#039; policies would be invalidated by your enquiries.  I would suggest that you find out who their provider is and either you or the other leaseholders should make enquiries.  Alternatively, ask your solicitor to make enquiries on your behalf; this is what you are paying them for!

Kind regards,

Gemma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen,</p>
<p>Firstly, keep pursuing your previous solicitors!  They may have on file an indemnity insurance policy for your flat and havent told you, you never know.  If they didnt sort this out when you bought the property, then this could amount to negligence and a claim could be pursued through the Legal Complaints Service.  In my experience, the threat of a formal complaint is usually sufficient to get a response from even the busiest solicitor and you may wish to test this out.</p>
<p>Please note that in order to be in a position to refer the case to the LCS, you would first have to proceed through the solicitor&#8217;s firm&#8217;s complaints service and I suggest that you telephone them and ask for a copy of their complaints procedure.  Follow that procedure, the starting point usually being a formal letter of complaint outlining the issues, including the continued lack of response to your calls.</p>
<p>Dealing with the main issue, I honestly cannot answer whether or not the other leaseholders&#8217; policies would be invalidated by your enquiries.  I would suggest that you find out who their provider is and either you or the other leaseholders should make enquiries.  Alternatively, ask your solicitor to make enquiries on your behalf; this is what you are paying them for!</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Gemma</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Antony,

My apologies for the delay in responding; as you can see from my other posts today, I&#039;m currently away on honeymoon and have taken the opportunity during a hotspell to reply to some of the enquiries coming through!

My advice is that before you decide to proceed with this property, you should obtain a copy of the proposed indemnity insurance policy and check the terms of it.  I would strongly suggest that you contact the proposed insurer directly and ask them this question; they will be best placed to provide you with the correct information and I am concerned that if you proceed without making these enquiries, you could proceed with a property that you subsequently cannot alter as you wish.  Certainly it would be inviting problems to undertake further work on an extension which does not already have approval, because the approval for the new work may be dependent upon you rectifying any breach committed when the previous work was undertaken.  Retrospective consent can be obtained, but the cost would entirely depend upon what works, if any, need to be undertaken before the extension is compliant.  I would suggest therefore that a better course of action may be to obtain a bespoke policy from the indemnity insurance company which would cover your works and the previous works.  I know that such policies can be obtained and perhaps it could be agreed with the seller that the cost of a standard policy should be deducted from the sale monies by you on completion and that you pay the balance required to obtain a bespoke policy.

Hope this helps!

Kind regards,

Gemma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Antony,</p>
<p>My apologies for the delay in responding; as you can see from my other posts today, I&#8217;m currently away on honeymoon and have taken the opportunity during a hotspell to reply to some of the enquiries coming through!</p>
<p>My advice is that before you decide to proceed with this property, you should obtain a copy of the proposed indemnity insurance policy and check the terms of it.  I would strongly suggest that you contact the proposed insurer directly and ask them this question; they will be best placed to provide you with the correct information and I am concerned that if you proceed without making these enquiries, you could proceed with a property that you subsequently cannot alter as you wish.  Certainly it would be inviting problems to undertake further work on an extension which does not already have approval, because the approval for the new work may be dependent upon you rectifying any breach committed when the previous work was undertaken.  Retrospective consent can be obtained, but the cost would entirely depend upon what works, if any, need to be undertaken before the extension is compliant.  I would suggest therefore that a better course of action may be to obtain a bespoke policy from the indemnity insurance company which would cover your works and the previous works.  I know that such policies can be obtained and perhaps it could be agreed with the seller that the cost of a standard policy should be deducted from the sale monies by you on completion and that you pay the balance required to obtain a bespoke policy.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Gemma</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex,

Im afraid it is correct that by contacting the Building Regulations Department, notice has now been provided to them of a potential breach.

As to who needs the policy, well technically, both of you.  The seller will need the policy in order to be able to sell the property to a potential buyer, particularly one who is obtaining a mortgage because whilst a cash buyer could simply choose to accept the risk, a mortgage company would not agree to do so.  I assume that you are buying with a mortgage but if not, it is a decision for you as to whether you want to proceed without the benefit of a policy.

Assuming you are getting a mortgage, I would suggest that the seller should pay for the policy and indeed this is usual; however, it is not unusual for a seller to simply refuse to pay for it, a decision which I think is somewhat unfair given that they have committed the breach.  Different policies have different terms, so it is difficult for me to answer your question regarding future buyers; however it is usual for a policy to cover any successor in title i.e. any future buyer, as well as you.

One issue you should be aware of however, is that if there has been a breach of building regulations and you are able to obtain a policy (which is unlikely given the issue of notice) then such a policy does not cover you for any structural problems; it simply covers any potential action taken by the Council to enforce the breach.  I therefore recommend to everyone where there has been a breach of building regulations that the offending structure should be inspected by a suitably qualified surveyor to check that there is no structural defect which could affect your future enjoyment of the property.

Hope this is of some assistance.

Kind regards,

Gemma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>Im afraid it is correct that by contacting the Building Regulations Department, notice has now been provided to them of a potential breach.</p>
<p>As to who needs the policy, well technically, both of you.  The seller will need the policy in order to be able to sell the property to a potential buyer, particularly one who is obtaining a mortgage because whilst a cash buyer could simply choose to accept the risk, a mortgage company would not agree to do so.  I assume that you are buying with a mortgage but if not, it is a decision for you as to whether you want to proceed without the benefit of a policy.</p>
<p>Assuming you are getting a mortgage, I would suggest that the seller should pay for the policy and indeed this is usual; however, it is not unusual for a seller to simply refuse to pay for it, a decision which I think is somewhat unfair given that they have committed the breach.  Different policies have different terms, so it is difficult for me to answer your question regarding future buyers; however it is usual for a policy to cover any successor in title i.e. any future buyer, as well as you.</p>
<p>One issue you should be aware of however, is that if there has been a breach of building regulations and you are able to obtain a policy (which is unlikely given the issue of notice) then such a policy does not cover you for any structural problems; it simply covers any potential action taken by the Council to enforce the breach.  I therefore recommend to everyone where there has been a breach of building regulations that the offending structure should be inspected by a suitably qualified surveyor to check that there is no structural defect which could affect your future enjoyment of the property.</p>
<p>Hope this is of some assistance.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Gemma</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anita,

Firstly, my apologies for replying to you; Im currently on honeymoon but checking my messages and saw your enquiry! (Fortunately for my new husband, I can type very quicky!)

The short answer is that I do not believe that an insurer would provide indemnity insurance now.  As you can see from the posts, if the relevant bodies have been notified of a potential breach, then usually, it is considered to have been put &quot;on notice&quot; and as a result, insurers refuse to insure.

It is possible I suppose that an insurer may offer some sort of bespoke policy, but I strongly believe that the best answer lies with your solicitor.  She could write to the relevant department, rather than your boyfriend making endless telephone calls.  This is what she is being paid for and certainly I would have no hesitation in writing urgent correspondence to either the Council or the Water Department (in fact, I would suggest both and see who replies first!).  This really should have been done as soon as the issue came to light and I wonder whether it has been or not?  I agree that it sounds very unlikely that after 35 years, anyone is going to raise issue with this and I cannot see either how the Council or the Water Company could successfully enforce anything after such a long period of time has elapsed.  

I hope this offers some assistance - I would strongly recommend that Andy contacts his solicitor and asks for urgent letters to be faxed to the Council and the Water Company.  In the meantime, he may also wish to consider discussing the issue with an indemnity insurance provider to ascertain whether or not they would definitely refuse to offer cover - there is no harm in asking!  I use a company called &quot;Legal &amp; Contingency&quot; and would suggest that he contacts them, as they offer good discounts for policies obtained online.

Kind regards,

Gemma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anita,</p>
<p>Firstly, my apologies for replying to you; Im currently on honeymoon but checking my messages and saw your enquiry! (Fortunately for my new husband, I can type very quicky!)</p>
<p>The short answer is that I do not believe that an insurer would provide indemnity insurance now.  As you can see from the posts, if the relevant bodies have been notified of a potential breach, then usually, it is considered to have been put &#8220;on notice&#8221; and as a result, insurers refuse to insure.</p>
<p>It is possible I suppose that an insurer may offer some sort of bespoke policy, but I strongly believe that the best answer lies with your solicitor.  She could write to the relevant department, rather than your boyfriend making endless telephone calls.  This is what she is being paid for and certainly I would have no hesitation in writing urgent correspondence to either the Council or the Water Department (in fact, I would suggest both and see who replies first!).  This really should have been done as soon as the issue came to light and I wonder whether it has been or not?  I agree that it sounds very unlikely that after 35 years, anyone is going to raise issue with this and I cannot see either how the Council or the Water Company could successfully enforce anything after such a long period of time has elapsed.  </p>
<p>I hope this offers some assistance &#8211; I would strongly recommend that Andy contacts his solicitor and asks for urgent letters to be faxed to the Council and the Water Company.  In the meantime, he may also wish to consider discussing the issue with an indemnity insurance provider to ascertain whether or not they would definitely refuse to offer cover &#8211; there is no harm in asking!  I use a company called &#8220;Legal &#038; Contingency&#8221; and would suggest that he contacts them, as they offer good discounts for policies obtained online.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Gemma</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gemma,
My boyfriend has sold his house STC but is having difficulty with a problem with a so called storm that runs down the driveway of his property and under a garage that was built about 35 years ago, the actual property having been built in 1963.
He has made several calls to the Water Company and to the Local Planning Department and they both say that due to the age of this garage it didn&#039;t need permission and that being just a storm drain, it was nothing to worry about. His buyer&#039;s solicitor is insisting that he obtain something in writing to substantiate this from either source which at the moment he is having trouble with, being passed between different departments and noone seems to want to put their neck on the line, so to speak.
He is due to exchange contracts in a week and the buyer&#039;s are threatening to pull out if he cannot get the written substantiation in time.
Would it be possible to purchase an indemnity policy to cover this problem in order to get the ball rolling again and so that he can complete and move himself. 
You are right about getting a good conveyancing solicitor, his has been rubbish and really hasn&#039;t earned her fee. Andy has been doing most of the research work for herand the stress over this issue is getting unbearable.
I hope you can help
Many thanks
Anita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gemma,<br />
My boyfriend has sold his house STC but is having difficulty with a problem with a so called storm that runs down the driveway of his property and under a garage that was built about 35 years ago, the actual property having been built in 1963.<br />
He has made several calls to the Water Company and to the Local Planning Department and they both say that due to the age of this garage it didn&#8217;t need permission and that being just a storm drain, it was nothing to worry about. His buyer&#8217;s solicitor is insisting that he obtain something in writing to substantiate this from either source which at the moment he is having trouble with, being passed between different departments and noone seems to want to put their neck on the line, so to speak.<br />
He is due to exchange contracts in a week and the buyer&#8217;s are threatening to pull out if he cannot get the written substantiation in time.<br />
Would it be possible to purchase an indemnity policy to cover this problem in order to get the ball rolling again and so that he can complete and move himself.<br />
You are right about getting a good conveyancing solicitor, his has been rubbish and really hasn&#8217;t earned her fee. Andy has been doing most of the research work for herand the stress over this issue is getting unbearable.<br />
I hope you can help<br />
Many thanks<br />
Anita</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m in the middle of buying a house and the HomeBuyers report mentions the fact that a chimney breast is present in bedroom, but not in kitchen below and there is no stack outside.  The surveyor advised to seek building regs cert.

I phoned the Council to check if there was planning permission, who advised to call Building control who said there was nothing on file.  I do not know when this was removed. I assume this counts as notice, as in thread above?

I&#039;m confused as to who needs the indemnity me or seller?  Also when I come to sell will the policy cover me?

Thanks 

Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the middle of buying a house and the HomeBuyers report mentions the fact that a chimney breast is present in bedroom, but not in kitchen below and there is no stack outside.  The surveyor advised to seek building regs cert.</p>
<p>I phoned the Council to check if there was planning permission, who advised to call Building control who said there was nothing on file.  I do not know when this was removed. I assume this counts as notice, as in thread above?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused as to who needs the indemnity me or seller?  Also when I come to sell will the policy cover me?</p>
<p>Thanks </p>
<p>Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: Antony</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am very close to purchasing a new house. The property has a substantial ground floor extension (2006), which has the correct planning approvals but does not appear to have building regulations completion certificate. We are pretty confident about the quality of the work as the surveyor instructed the bank to ask us for a structural engineer to review the property. The structural report has come back fine and the seller is now offering indemnity insurance to compensate for the lack of building regs, which I understand is pretty standard.

My question is this: we are happy to take the insurance but we would also like to undertake some further work on the ground floor extension (two new sets of patio doors, one replacing a window, putting in a utility room and a new internal door) which we would want to seek out the proper approvals for. Would we, by inviting inspectors to review work undertaken in the future, invalidate the indemnity insurance offered by our seller now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am very close to purchasing a new house. The property has a substantial ground floor extension (2006), which has the correct planning approvals but does not appear to have building regulations completion certificate. We are pretty confident about the quality of the work as the surveyor instructed the bank to ask us for a structural engineer to review the property. The structural report has come back fine and the seller is now offering indemnity insurance to compensate for the lack of building regs, which I understand is pretty standard.</p>
<p>My question is this: we are happy to take the insurance but we would also like to undertake some further work on the ground floor extension (two new sets of patio doors, one replacing a window, putting in a utility room and a new internal door) which we would want to seek out the proper approvals for. Would we, by inviting inspectors to review work undertaken in the future, invalidate the indemnity insurance offered by our seller now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI, we have been unable to complete on the sale of our ground floor flat due to lack of building reg certificate being issued.  The owners of the flat above us purchased their flat with indemnity insurance and so did the  owners (who are also the freeholders) of the basement flat.  We have been told that we cant purchase an indemnity policy as we have put the council on notice and funny enough the solicitor who acted for us on the original sale of this flat wont return my calls.  Our buyers solicitors are now asking us for building reg cert for the basement flat, which was converted in 2003 (but he is not asking us for the build reg cert for our own ground floor flat).  We have been told that if we cant get Building reg certs, that this will mean that everyone else&#039;s indemnity policies will be invalid.  This is very stressful and now we are close to losing the house that we have had an offer accepted on.  We have submitted plans into council for a retrospective build reg approval, how long will this take and is there anything else I can do to ensure the sale goes through. (PS: our buyers have now moved into our flat and are renting from us, while we are in a short term rental until completion of our new property).  pls help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI, we have been unable to complete on the sale of our ground floor flat due to lack of building reg certificate being issued.  The owners of the flat above us purchased their flat with indemnity insurance and so did the  owners (who are also the freeholders) of the basement flat.  We have been told that we cant purchase an indemnity policy as we have put the council on notice and funny enough the solicitor who acted for us on the original sale of this flat wont return my calls.  Our buyers solicitors are now asking us for building reg cert for the basement flat, which was converted in 2003 (but he is not asking us for the build reg cert for our own ground floor flat).  We have been told that if we cant get Building reg certs, that this will mean that everyone else&#8217;s indemnity policies will be invalid.  This is very stressful and now we are close to losing the house that we have had an offer accepted on.  We have submitted plans into council for a retrospective build reg approval, how long will this take and is there anything else I can do to ensure the sale goes through. (PS: our buyers have now moved into our flat and are renting from us, while we are in a short term rental until completion of our new property).  pls help!</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
We carried out alterations to our home which were completed in May 2009. We were informed at the time that no approval was needed  however it has transpired that we should have had a building warrant issued for the work.(replacing existing window with patio doors and bricking up existing back door). Our house is on the market and we are concerned that this will make it difficult/ impossible to sell. could you provide us with any information on a way forward and if an indemnity policy would be of any benefit in this case?

Thanks Suzanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
We carried out alterations to our home which were completed in May 2009. We were informed at the time that no approval was needed  however it has transpired that we should have had a building warrant issued for the work.(replacing existing window with patio doors and bricking up existing back door). Our house is on the market and we are concerned that this will make it difficult/ impossible to sell. could you provide us with any information on a way forward and if an indemnity policy would be of any benefit in this case?</p>
<p>Thanks Suzanne</p>
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